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  1. chibamonster
    February 16, 2014 @ 5:59 am

    I haven’t finished the series yet so sorry if you have already answered this. When you compose to a certain rectangle’s armature do you want to repeat that same ratio used to construct the rectangle throughout the composition? For instance if I am doing a 1.5 rectangle piece would it be more visually appealing to place my elements at ratios of 1.5 intervals as opposed to phi ratios?

    I just some phi calipers and was wondering if they are most useful in phi based compositions like the golden rectangle, root 5 and root phi. I was thinking that for 1.5 and root 2, 3, and 4 my best option would be halves and thirds. Of course, I don’t mean rule of thirds ;-D

  2. admin
    February 17, 2014 @ 12:54 pm

    Hi Chibamonster, that’s a good question. And yes, no rule of thirds! haha! From what I’ve discovered by analyzing George Seurat’s work is that you can design in a 1.5 and still use the PHI calipers for your proportions. As far as halve’s or thirds go, you can use those when you are determining a nice ratio for overlapping objects (when PHI doesn’t suffice) as seen in Day 48. The PHI calipers will supply you with most of what you need though. Be sure to check out Day 23 and 67 to see how Seurat designs his painting. He uses calipers in a 1.5 rectangle and also manages to incorporate the grid and many other design techniques…hence a masterpiece is born.

    Congrats on getting some Phi calipers! Best of luck in your design! Let me know if you have other questions.

    Tavis

  3. Aladine Vargas
    March 30, 2014 @ 11:47 pm

    You can use the phi ratio in any rectangle.

    WARNING : For the sake of visual clarity, harmony and unity it’s better to divide up the space of the canvas based on the gamut and ratio created by the armature of the rectangle you are using.

    The Root rectangles makes it reciprocal rectangles divide equally into itself according to its root number. So a root 2 divides equally into 2 reciprocal. Root 3 into thirds, root 4 into quarters and root 5 into 5 equal reciprocal rectangles.

    Now if you want to replace the reciprocal theme of 2,3,Quarters or 5ths with Phi — you can.

    But again for visual clarity, harmony and unity use a theme. Unless you really really want to use both the phi and the ratios of the rectangle.

    How will that effect your design?
    1. It expands your gamut from 8 line directions to 12. Which gives the viewers eyes more information to process.

    2) The more points along a line your composition can place intersecting lines the heavier and more clutter your design may feel to the viewer.

    So if you have a line. And in your composition you declare that all lines are only permitted to intersect or join another line at 4 points rather than say 6 or 8 points. The 4 point design will give your composition more space between lines. This helps your design “breathe”.

    Hope this helps.

  4. tavis
    March 31, 2014 @ 11:12 pm

    Thanks for helping with the in-depth comment Aladine!

  5. tavis
    March 30, 2016 @ 8:31 am

    Hi Dee, thanks for the comment.
    It’s kinda confusing in written form, but when you look at the attached image you can see that BC is the diagonal of the square. When that diagonal swings down, it meets E. Then to complete the root 2 you run a line up from E to F. So now the final root 2 rectangle is BEFD. Hope that helps! 🙂 Please comment again if you are still stuck. Thank you!

  6. Dee Gandhi
    April 5, 2016 @ 6:47 pm

    Thanks Travis.

    I’m slowly getting it. But your work is amazing. Its mind blowing and its changing the way I look at art and my own work.
    Thank you.

  7. tavis
    April 6, 2016 @ 7:08 am

    Thanks Dee, I really appreciate that! I’m glad the info is inspiring your work so much 😀

  8. Dee Gandhi
    April 12, 2016 @ 7:19 am

    Hey Travis, I’ve downloaded the grid and want to get them printed for my lcd screen.

    I am having trouble with the sizing. I am printing them as they are from the psd files, but are coming out too big. Could you tell me what you did for the correct sizing on a 3.2″ lcd screen?

    Thank you in advance.

  9. tavis
    April 13, 2016 @ 7:37 am

    Hi Dee, I would recommend measuring the width and height of your LCD, then resizing the grid layout according to those measurements. Also, make sure that it stays within the 8.5×11 paper size without shrinking it to a printable area. To get it exact, might take a bit of finessing. Hope that helps Dee! I’m glad you’re starting to practice with the grids!

  10. Dee Gandhi
    April 14, 2016 @ 6:38 pm

  11. kazooless
    June 7, 2016 @ 11:41 am

    The PDF is a hard read, but get a load of this quote:

    “Unless rectangles are used which possess this dynamic property of modulation and measurableness it will be impossible to give design the vital qualities of life and growth. Design created within rectangles which do not possess this function of commensurable area are always flat and dead.” (page 67)

  12. tavis
    June 8, 2016 @ 7:17 am

    Wow, that is a mouthful! Hambidge has a way with words 😀 I agree with the quote though. Thanks for sharing, I haven’t read his book in a while. Awesome reference though!

  13. kazooless
    June 10, 2016 @ 9:26 am

    Tavis, you mention the 1.5 is close to Phi, but is it also a special rectangle like the Phi or roots? Or do you just include it because that is the most common sensor size in our cameras today?

  14. tavis
    June 10, 2016 @ 10:53 am

    It’s special in it’s own way I suppose. It is the most common sensor size, plus popular printing/canvas sizes like 4×6 and 24×36. I wish they would make phi ratio camera sensors though 😉

  15. kazooless
    June 10, 2016 @ 11:23 am

    And after further analysis, it seems to me the 1.5 is closer to a Root 2 instead of Phi, right? 1.5-1.414=.085 vs 1.618-1.5=1.118

  16. tavis
    June 12, 2016 @ 11:42 am

    You’re right, but with the root 2 you would snip at the sides, and the phi you would snip at the top and bottom. I like the phi because it’s skinnier than the root two and works better with the photography I do…mostly models in the landscape, or full body shots. It all depends though….all of the root rectangles come in handy for different subjects.

  17. tavis
    July 27, 2016 @ 7:17 am

    That’s awesome, looks great! Sorry for the delayed response 😉

  18. sandru andrei
    September 13, 2016 @ 7:42 am

    Hi Tavis,

    Great blog so far, the only thing that stops me from reading all night is that I have to go to work in the morning.

    I plan to get in touch in a more personal matter later this year, but for now I just want to quote HCB from his book “The decisive moment”:

    “Any geometrical analysis, any reducing of the picture to the schema, can be done only after the photograph has been taken, developed and printed – and then it can be used only for a post-mortem examination of the picture. I hope we will never see the day when photo shops sell little schema grills to clamp onto our view-finder; and that the Golden Rule will never be found etched on our ground glass”.

    I had to quote this since you are teaching the old school of design, but in the same time you are offering free downloadable grids to be stick on displays (on your resources page). Isn’t this a form of cheating after all? Of course it helps on finding the right arrangement, but once you see it works why would anyone remove the grid and really learn how to “see”? Of course, technology had greatly evolved since the invention of photography (LCD, Photoshop, digital printing, well digital sums it all – if 30 years ago developing a photography took a couple of hours, now everything is just a matter of a mouse click). However, this doesn’t mean that people shouldn’t study and learn the craft from great masters’ works and then just copy them, trial and error, until they manage to master their technique.

    Now let me quote you: “[…] we don’t usually get to see the under structure of paintings. I still
    haven’t found any of the masters. Remember, they wanted this to be a
    secret”. Again, I believe that personal studies over paintings and photographs have more to teach than a cheating grid. After all the legacy is huge.

    Would love to hear your take on this.
    Thanks and keep up the excellent work!

  19. tavis
    September 15, 2016 @ 7:19 am

    Hi Sandru, thanks for the nice comment and question! Glad you’re enjoying the content so far.

    That’s a great question and it’s interesting because I was just looking at this quote and writing about it in the upcoming street photography book 😀

    His book was published in the 50’s and a ton has changed since then. Like you mentioned, technology has advanced greatly and Bresson didn’t have an LCD screen to enjoy 😉 I still think his quote is great because we can learn a lot from analyzing our own work for composition techniques. I am a firm believer of starting with the LCD grids though, because it worked for me. I’m a visual learner, so it might not be for everyone. It helped me see the lines and understand it in a way I could comprehend and put into practice. I don’t think it’s a form of cheating because none of us were classically trained by an accomplished cubist painter like Bresson was. He learned a great deal about his “geometry” from Andre Lhote….lucky guy!

    The grid on an LCD is similar to the lines on a highway I suppose. When we are beginning to drive they are helpful guides to keep us from veering off into the other lane. After a while though, we know which side to be on, when to safely pass cars, and we could easily do it without lines guiding us. The grid is a tool, but shouldn’t be considered a cheat. I recommend others to use both the grid, and analyze their work….the best of both worlds 😉

    Hope that answers your question Sandru, take care.

  20. sandru andrei
    September 16, 2016 @ 11:14 am

    Hi Tavis,

    Thanks for answering. What can I say? Good answer 🙂 I must admit that I was a bit selfish and didn’t thought at visual learners prior on writing my comment.

    And I also have to admit that I do miss a grid from times to times, but in the end the grid overlay applied in lightroom helps a lot on learning where did I go wrong when taking the shot and I can see the difference as weeks pass and I study and practice. As Bresson used to say something like: “it’s a matter of millimeters that can define a good composition” (not the exact quote).

    I wonder from time to time, how did Bresson selected his photos in post production? Let’s say that for each decisive shot he had 10 others frames to choose from. What tool did he use, a grid over his photos, a golden ratio caliper? Same goes for other photographers? How did they “measure” their composition? I am especially referring on those that were against cropping. It’s hard to believe that they always had time for exact composing.

    Maybe I’ll find out someday. For the moment I’m glad I found Myron Barnstone, Adam Marelli and you (any other recommendations are more than welcomed). Dynamic symmetry is a big game changer.

  21. tavis
    September 22, 2016 @ 6:39 am

    Hi Sandru, thanks for the comment, and sorry for the delayed response. I’ve been working hard on the new book, which covers street photography, Bresson, and the other masters.
    You have some great questions. I think Bresson might have used tracing paper to analyze a print of his work. That’s what Myron Barnstone did…he had tons of books in his library that had several pages with tracing paper and grid lines on them. With technology, we can do it quicker in Photoshop or Lightroom. The way I do it is I created an action in Photoshop that places the grid onto the photo…one button and the grid is on top. Pretty handy!
    Barnstone used Calipers as well. If you haven’t had a chance yet, take a look at this article about Bresson using dynamic symmetry. You might find it inspiring…it basically explains how he mostly used two lines…diagonal and reciprocal.
    https://ipoxstudios.com/henri-cartier-bresson-geometry-exposed/

    Another great resource for Dynamic Symmetry is my friend Jim’s site…check it out when you get a chance. He studied Myron’s method also, and has developed a site with excellent resources. http://www.dynamicsymmetry.net/

    I’m excited that you are putting this great info to use 😀

  22. tavis
    September 22, 2016 @ 6:42 am

    Thanks for helping out Frank! I agree, the overlapping root 4 rectangles are quite messy, and I always try to analyze by using the 1.5 armature when it comes to Bresson. He seemed to use a diagonal and reciprocal the most in his work.

  23. Jason Plevras
    August 31, 2017 @ 3:47 am

    Hey Tavis
    Loving uncovering the secrets behind the masters. FYI: The link to Dott Bunn’s site is dead I think.

  24. tavis
    August 31, 2017 @ 4:24 pm

    Great to hear! 😀 Thanks for the heads up on the link too.

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