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  1. Andrew Coles
    November 1, 2013 @ 7:31 am

    This article is amazing. Thank you for making such detailed information and analysis about one image.

    It got me thinking about my own photography…about how one would apply these principles to their own image making. would you be able to recommend any books/texts that would be worth reading up on.

    This all just reminded me of highschool art and finding triangles in the great painters compositions. I would love to learn more and attempt to bring some more depth in to my own compositions. 🙂

    Thanks again. (bookmarking your page to read through the rest on the train)
    Andrew

  2. tavis
    November 1, 2013 @ 10:29 am

    Hi Andrew, you’re welcome! It’s nice to finally start to see how these compositions are created. I wish I had studied composition like you when I was in high school! I’ll be releasing an article on how to use the grid…I want to make a video, so it’s easy to understand. I will also release a list of recommended videos/books on the subject. Until then, i would check out all of Myron Barnstone’s free videos on youtube. If you like those, he has them for sale too. “The Painter’s Secret Geometry” gives more examples of how it’s used in art, but it’s tough to find…plus expensive. I really liked “The Practice and Science of Drawing” by Harold Speed…he talks about communicating to the viewer and using rhythm…good even if you don’t read the specific parts on drawing. It all relates to most forms of art.

  3. Camille
    February 24, 2014 @ 8:03 am

    Hi,

    Interesting post, thanks for sharing your knowledge. If I may make a suggestion to improve the reader’s experience: you should increase the font size a bit to make it more comfortable to read. I know, I know, we can zoom in! But still, I thought it could be worth mentioning as it is part of the design of your website. The font size used for the Comments section is already a lot easier to read.
    Now this being said, it is a subjective opinion and you might prefer it as it is.

  4. admin
    February 24, 2014 @ 9:17 am

    Hi Camille, thanks for taking the time to view my project. Glad you are finding it helpful 🙂 I added a font size plugin which should help with your great suggestion. You can adjust it at the top of the article and should remain that way until you clear out your internet cookies. Take care! Tavis

  5. TimothyHill
    December 5, 2016 @ 11:39 am

    Im struggling to understand your analysis. I can see to much variation in the image to be honest. where is best to start to look at the image. For instance I look at the squaring and literally imagine squares. I know that from a graphic design point of view if there is one- its different in britain quite anarchic in parts. Im referring to in design here and how it divides canvases into squares and the diagonal is there. All these methods are different ways of looking at this image. shrinking down seems vague as logic. root four where does that come from? what about a time lapse of the figures the photographic session. I use a compass to draw a arc usually???? I find the centres first. Are there four rectangles interlocking which disappear in a overlay as opposed to a tessellating form.
    I could go on. The groupings the triangles. you say you don’t know how she did it is this all guess work then? A element of animation or colours would help. A index of where the division started? I think most art is kind of improvised. it is winging it. Id love to understand this its very interesting. i see a above and below to it. the arabesque I don’t get I typed it into goggle and got patterns. Patterns that have grids that this pattern is hiding something underneath its refining a design basically. Its like the details are superfluous that the subject is a misnomer That the real players are the ones in between. the negative space.

  6. tavis
    December 8, 2016 @ 6:54 pm

    Hi Timothy, thanks for the question. I’ll try to answer your questions. Sorry that you’re having a tough time understanding, it’s a lot to take in…like learning a new language. The root 4 is mentioned in the book “Elements of Dynamic Symmetry” by Jay Hambidge. It is a rectangle that is constructed from a square. It’s not as difficult as you might think.
    I don’t think it’s all guess work. She’s a professional and needs to be on top of her game. This means planning a shoot thoroughly…not winging it. She has a whole team and I suspect that her set designer helps quite a bit with the production.

    I have made videos that cover the techniques thoroughly and provide animations. They are for sale on my site.
    It doesn’t matter where the division starts, it’s the final product that matters. The grid (armature) is constructed the same way each time…two diagonals, 4 reciprocals, horizontals and verticals.

    You’re right, most art is improvised. This doesn’t mean they are masterpieces. The majority of aren’t will never fall under the category of masterpiece. I share these techniques so that artists can surpass the plateau if they wish. They can stay in the same place too…all up to them if they want to continue winging it and see what they get. I think with knowledge comes the ability to control the outcome instead of guessing.

    The arabesque is a term that was frequently used by Myron Barnstone. It’s like Hogarth’s line of beauty, but more complex and versatile. The arabesque incorporates the Law of Continuity, which is a Gestalt psychology principle. Basically we can unite multiple objects with their edge to edge relationships…much like a dotted line creating an image.

    I just released an ebook that covers all of these techniques thoroughly…it’s only available on Amazon until February though. It’s called “Photography Composition & Design” and I would recommend it if you are serious about wanting to learn this stuff. I present it in a fun and easy to understand format.

    The negative space plays an important role as well. It allows the composition to breathe and can be used to create visual tension, isolation, or loneliness in an image.

    I hope this helps. The more you study it, the easier it will be to understand. Baby steps 🙂

  7. TimothyHill
    December 9, 2016 @ 4:50 am

    Hello there thanks for your reply. I have read a painters secret geometry. It was a eye opener. I have done most of the exercises actually like swinging the hyp. of the square. Its this image I find difficult I guess and applying the analysis and getting it right. I used to be able to see the composition in paintings. the geometry behind them in a glance even in photos from the press that I didn’t think were composed but I think some are more considered now. obviously photographers are considering the rules and art is in the newspapers. I was thinking about the dynamic symmetry that simple symmetry is side by side like a rorschach test or butterfly yet dynamic could be non consecutive and work across layers in the depth of field. You can have twins, triplets and quads of symmetries yet spread out through time as subjects so they are less obvious and like you say dual in the same figure, different symmetries a quad can share a twin. I guess I’m looking for a controlled experiment so to speak where its explicit. This is a complex image for sure. Im happy that it more complex. thank you i appreciate the feedback.

  8. tavis
    December 12, 2016 @ 10:58 am

    Thanks for the comment Timothy, it is definitely complex, but gets easier with experience. I think the hardest thing would be getting all of those actresses together 🙂 Take care!

  9. Moro
    January 20, 2017 @ 1:18 am

    wow…great great article !!!

  10. tavis
    January 20, 2017 @ 9:59 pm

    Thanks for the nice comment, glad you enjoyed it!

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